Behold, I am God; Man of Holiness is my name; Man of Counsel is my name; and Endless and Eternal is my name, also.

Zion and Jerusalem, January 23, 2014

Behold, I am God; Man of Holiness is my name; Man of Counsel is my name; and Endless and Eternal is my name, also.

(Pearl of Great Price | Moses 7:35)

 

  Jim Kelly said time and again to me:

“Funny, you quoting the Bible that you don't even believe in. That's right, I know how the LDS feels about the Bible, since the BOM clearly states seven times in 1 Nephi 13 that it's going to missing many "plain and precious things," even though the Mormon god never got around to giving you a corrected copy.”

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1:39pm

Jim Kelly:

“He did, however, tell Joseph Smith to retranslate the Bible (D&C 73-3-4) , and Smith claimed twice to have done just that (HOTC 1:324, 368-69) but still, the JST ended up in the hands of the apostate RLDS, didn't it? Indeed it did, and all your church has is the notes that John Milton Bernhisel copied from the completed work with Emma Smith's permission.”

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1:40pm

Jim Kelly:

The RLDS published it and copywrote it, which is the reason the mainstream LDS cannot canonize it, since that would violate the copyright. Oops, Mormon god fail here.

Go ahead and check my sources, you'll find that I'm 100% correct in this conclusion. And that, of course, is but one reason that the LDS faith is a blatant lie.

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1:56pm

I yam what I yam or I AM replied to him

Miguel Angel Tinoco time and again replied to him:

I hate Palookas

Very funny indeed, Jim Kelly!!!! IF I do not believe in the Bible as you foolishly suppose then you can shoot and I am a dead man.

Go ahead, make my day.

I know what I believe not you. I would not quote something I do not believe in with all my heart. I set things on fire but I do not play with fire. And if I err in some of my beliefs it is only because of the mistakes of man. I believe in the Bible as far as it is translated correctly. I know it is the word of GOD, but many plain and precious things have been taken away from it and other have been changed. In fact, I can truly attest that follow the admonition of Paul. I believe in all things. I have suffered many things and I hope to be able to suffer all things if there is anything praiseworthy and of good report. Unlike you, I practice what I preach and claim to believe. And you are the evidence that the word I preach is good for it pierces the wicked soul. I know that you are 100% liar, for you follow your father the devil, even the father of lies. All of those, like you who demand for a sign and proof are wicked and adulterous. Of this I am 100% sure because Jesus Christ said so and if you deny it you make of him a liar. My faith is not on trial here nor the Bible and much less the Book of Mormon but your filthy and unworthy soul. I or you do not need to go and check any outside or unfounded sources to know that I have spoken the truth...

A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas. And he left them, and departed.

(New Testament | Matthew 16:4)

P.S.

By the way, I have and own a corrected copy of the JST of the Bible and I can copy and paste as much from it as I wish and it will not be an infringement of any copy right material for it all belongs to GOD and he takes when he pleases. And even that is not a perfect translation of the Bible for it was translated or corrected from the KJV and not from the original sources.

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1:59pm

Jim Kelly:

Why then, does your church continue to use a book that is, by its own admission, "tampered with by corrupt religionists" (Ezra Taft Benson, Ensign, Jan. 1992)? Does that make any sense to you? Nope, me neither.

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  Jim Kelly:

Mormons only use the Bible to prove Mormonism, and then tell us that it's wrong when we use it to refute it.

I won't waste my time on stuff you didn't bother to write, so don't send me stuff like that.

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2:01pm

Miguel Angel Tinoco:

Because GOD says so. Despite the mistakes, errors, omissions and interpolations it is one of the best ever written books. and the LORD did say:

"seek ye out of the best books words of wisdom, seek learning even by study and also by faith;"

(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 109:7)

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2:02pm

Jim Kelly

And if you own a "corrected" JST, ask yourself why your church doesn't canonize it. Why does it still include the one that is so hopelessly in error?

I'm smarter than your god, because your god is actually Joseph Smith, not the Biblical God.

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2:08pm

Miguel Angel Tinoco

That is not my problem. Canonized or not, I believe in it. I know the voice and the words of of GOD when I hear them and read them regardless of source. If it were me, I would even canonize all things that I have written. It is a free country, ma, have you not heart? Here in America we may worship whatever we want. It would not surprise me to see the man who communed with Jehovah as a god. To this end he and many others were born. Do not the scriptures say that the sons of god are also gods? We declare him of whom you falsely profess to believe in, even the Biblical GOD. For you he is the crucified man, for us he is also the resurrected one as noted in the Book of Mormon and the Glorified GOD as depicted int he Book of Doctrine and Covenants and the rest of our scriptures. We preach what we know and you preach what of you know about. And it is better to know GOD that just to know about him.

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2:10pm

Jim Kelly:

"Do not the scriptures say that the sons of god are also gods?" No, they actually don't say that when taken in context. That's a sham that Mormonism uses to justify its own beliefs. Jesus said that to the men who were judging him, not implying that men become gods like God after death.”

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2:11pm

Jim Kelly:

And, according to the BOM, the Mormon god was always god, and was never a man. It clearly echoes the KJV, with which Joseph Smith was very familiar.

The concept of eternal progression didn't come to Joseph Smith until years later, long after he'd written the BOM.

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2:14pm

Miguel Angel Tinoco:

Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

(New Testament | 2 Peter 1:20)

You say you are smarter than GOD but you are a reprobate. For the scriptures cannot be broken or denied.

"I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High."

(Old Testament | Psalms 82:6)

As you see, I do not interpret the scriptures to my own liking for they are not for private interpretation.

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2:17pm

Miguel Angel Tinoco:

I hate Palolokas.

Again, you are reprobate for His name is the son of Man and the name of the Father is the MAN OF HOLINESS. So again you are dead wrong.

For if I, who am a man, do lift up my voice and call upon you to repent, and ye hate me, what will ye say when the day cometh when the thunders shall utter their voices from the ends of the earth, speaking to the ears of all that live, saying—Repent, and prepare for the great day of the Lord?

Yea, and again, when the lightnings shall streak forth from the east unto the west, and shall utter forth their voices unto all that live, and make the ears of all tingle that hear, saying these words—Repent ye, for the great day of the Lord is come?

And again, the Lord shall utter his voice out of heaven, saying: Hearken, O ye nations of the earth, and hear the words of that God who made you.

O, ye nations of the earth, how often would I have gathered you together as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, but ye would not!

How oft have I called upon you by the mouth of my servants, and by the ministering of angels, and by mine own voice, and by the voice of thunderings, and by the voice of lightnings, and by the voice of tempests, and by the voice of earthquakes, and great hailstorms, and by the voice of famines and pestilences of every kind, and by the great sound of a trump, and by the voice of judgment, and by the voice of mercy all the day long, and by the voice of glory and honor and the riches of eternal life, and would have saved you with an everlasting salvation, but ye would not! Behold, the day has come, when the cup of the wrath of mine indignation is full.

Behold, verily I say unto you, that these are the words of the Lord your God.

(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 43:21 - 27)

I do not hear a woman speaking nor an animal moaning; therefore if he speaks like a man, he must be a man.

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2:18pm

Miguel Angel Tinoco:

Behold, I am God; Man of Holiness is my name; Man of Counsel is my name; and Endless and Eternal is my name, also.

(Pearl of Great Price | Moses 7:35)

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2:19pm

Miguel Angel Tinoco

Now, I hope his other names and titles are man up enough for you. 

For every battle of the warrior is with confused noise, and garments rolled in blood; but this shall be with burning and fuel of fire.

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever.  The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.

(Old Testament | Isaiah 9:5 - 7)

Now we believe in an open cannon of scripture for the words of GOD never cease and we cannot even suppose to be able to say enough about him and his cause which is to bring to pass immortality and eternal life of man and his course of action is an eternal round and his words and works have no end.  This is our standard creed.

WE believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.

We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam's transgression.

We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.

We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.

We believe that a man must be called of God, by prophecy, and by the laying on of hands by those who are in authority, to preach the Gospel and administer in the ordinances thereof.

We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.

We believe in the gift of tongues, prophecy, revelation, visions, healing, interpretation of tongues, and so forth.

We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.

We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.

We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.

We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.

We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.

We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul—We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things.  If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.

(Pearl of Great Price | Articles of Faith 1:1 - 13)

Now, despite of all things that are written there are a great many prophets amongst us and we are commanded to direct the affairs of the church as the spirit directs us in all levels. To some divine revelation comes drop by drop or line by line, precept upon precept, and command after command. And to some it comes like a torrent. And therefore the revelation in our mist is constant. Have you not seen? I have been speaking to you and many others all morning.  And concerning this it is plainly written:

How long can rolling waters remain impure?  What power shall stay the heavens?  As well might man stretch forth his puny arm to stop the Missouri river in its decreed course, or to turn it up stream, as to hinder the Almighty from pouring down knowledge from heaven upon the heads of the Latter-day Saints.

(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 121:33)

And thy brother Oliver shall continue in bearing my name before the world, and also to the church.  And he shall not suppose that he can say enough in my cause; and lo, I am with him to the end.

(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 24:10)

And last but not least, this is not the work of man, but the work of GOD and hi directs it with all prudence and wisdom at each and every level.  It is not the work of God that is frustrated but the works of the children of men for they set to naught the counsels of GOD. And for this they must suffer the vengeance of a just and an offended GOD. And even if the heavens and the earth shall pass away, his words will remain and will all be fulfilled to the last iota for so the LORD has spoken it.  

For assuredly as the Lord liveth they shall see that the terrible one is brought to naught, and the scorner is consumed, and all that watch for iniquity are cut off; And they that make a man an offender for a word, and lay a snare for him that reproveth in the gate, and turn aside the just for a thing of naught.

Therefore, thus saith the Lord, who redeemed Abraham, concerning the house of Jacob: Jacob shall not now be ashamed, neither shall his face now wax pale. But when he seeth his children, the work of my hands, in the midst of him, they shall sanctify my name, and sanctify the Holy One of Jacob, and shall fear the God of Israel. They also that erred in spirit shall come to understanding, and they that murmured shall learn doctrine.

(Book of Mormon | 2 Nephi 27:31 - 35)

We ask thee, Holy Father, to confound, and astonish, and to bring to shame and confusion, all those who have spread lying reports abroad, over the world, against thy servant or servants, if they will not repent, when the everlasting gospel shall be proclaimed in their ears; And that all their works may be brought to naught, and be swept away by the hail, and by the judgments which thou wilt send upon them in thine anger, that there may be an end to lyings and slanders against thy people.

For thou knowest, O Lord, that thy servants have been innocent before thee in bearing record of thy name, for which they have suffered these things.

Therefore we plead before thee for a full and complete deliverance from under this yoke; Break it off, O Lord; break it off from the necks of thy servants, by thy power, that we may rise up in the midst of this generation and do thy work.

O Jehovah, have mercy upon this people, and as all men sin forgive the transgressions of thy people, and let them be blotted out forever. Let the anointing of thy ministers be sealed upon them with power from on high. Let it be fulfilled upon them, as upon those on the day of Pentecost; let the gift of tongues be poured out upon thy people, even cloven tongues as of fire, and the interpretation thereof. And let thy house be filled, as with a rushing mighty wind, with thy glory.

Put upon thy servants the testimony of the covenant, that when they go out and proclaim thy word they may seal up the law, and prepare the hearts of thy saints for all those judgments thou art about to send, in thy wrath, upon the inhabitants of the earth, because of their transgressions, that thy people may not faint in the day of trouble. And whatsoever city thy servants shall enter, and the people of that city receive their testimony, let thy peace and thy salvation be upon that city; that they may gather out of that city the righteous, that they may come forth to Zion, or to her stakes, the places of thine appointment, with songs of everlasting joy; And until this be accomplished, let not thy judgments fall upon that city.

And whatsoever city thy servants shall enter, and the people of that city receive not the testimony of thy servants, and thy servants warn them to save themselves from this untoward generation, let it be upon that city according to that which thou hast spoken by the mouths of thy prophets.

But deliver thou, O Jehovah, we beseech thee, thy servants from their hands, and cleanse them from their blood. O Lord, we delight not in the destruction of our fellow men; their souls are precious before thee; But thy word must be fulfilled.  Help thy servants to say, with thy grace assisting them: Thy will be done, O Lord, and not ours.

We know that thou hast spoken by the mouth of thy prophets terrible things concerning the wicked, in the last days—that thou wilt pour out thy judgments, without measure;

Therefore, O Lord, deliver thy people from the calamity of the wicked; enable thy servants to seal up the law, and bind up the testimony, that they may be prepared against the day of burning.

(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 109:29 - 46)

For our of Zion shall go forth the deliverer

We therefore ask thee to have mercy upon the children of Jacob, that Jerusalem, from this hour, may begin to be redeemed; And the yoke of bondage may begin to be broken off from the house of David; And the children of Judah may begin to return to the lands which thou didst give to Abraham, their father. And cause that the remnants of Jacob, who have been cursed and smitten because of their transgression, be converted from their wild and savage condition to the fulness of the everlasting gospel; That they may lay down their weapons of bloodshed, and cease their rebellions. And may all the scattered remnants of Israel, who have been driven to the ends of the earth, come to a knowledge of the truth, believe in the Messiah, and be redeemed from oppression, and rejoice before thee.

(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 109:62 - 67)

And saviours shall come up on mount Zion to judge the mount of Esau; and the kingdom shall be the LORD's.

(Old Testament | Obadiah 1:21)

THE TRUTH SHALL GO FORTH

http://www.lds.org/general-conference/2008/10/the-truth-of-god-shall-go-forth?lang=eng

“The Standard of Truth has been erected; no unhallowed hand can stop the work from progressing; persecutions may rage, mobs may combine, armies may assemble, calumny may defame, but the truth of God will go forth boldly, nobly, and independent, till it has penetrated every continent, visited every clime, swept every country, and sounded in every ear, till the purposes of God shall be accomplished, and the Great Jehovah shall say the work is done” (History of the Church, 4:540).

And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes. For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief: Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.

For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God!  how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out! For who hath known the mind of the Lord?  or who hath been his counsellor? Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again?

 For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever.  Amen.

(New Testament | Romans 11:26 - 36)

These things I seal humbly and boldly with and by the power bestowed upon me, according to the will and pleasure of GOD and I do it solemnly and humbly as one having authority in the sacred name of Jesus Christ, amen.

THE ZEAL OF THE LORD

Miguel Angel Tinoco Rodriguez